Anyone have any experience with this gyro? Opinions? Thanks

http://www.gdt-systems.com/body.asp

On Jul 22, 11:49 pm, "Chief McGee" > wrote:
> Anyone have any experience with this gyro? Opinions? Thanks
>
> http://www.gdt-systems.com/body.asp

It would appear to be Bell 47 Rule noncompliant.

Bret Ludwig wrote:
> On Jul 22, 11:49 pm, "Chief McGee" > wrote:
>> Anyone have any experience with this gyro? Opinions? Thanks
>>
>> http://www.gdt-systems.com/body.asp
>
> It would appear to be Bell 47 Rule noncompliant.


Bell 47 rule?

On Aug 27, 7:37 am, "Gig 601XL Builder"

> Bell 47 rule?

Paraphrased, there is no cheaper/more economical/more efficient way of
achieving vertical takeoff and landing than with a Bell 47 helicopter.
If a proposed rotorcraft or VTOL aircraft is simpler and/or less
expensive than a Bell 47, either the price is unrealistic or the
aircraft will not fly as promised.

Bob K.

Bob Kuykendall wrote:
> On Aug 27, 7:37 am, "Gig 601XL Builder"
>
>> Bell 47 rule?
>
> Paraphrased, there is no cheaper/more economical/more efficient way of
> achieving vertical takeoff and landing than with a Bell 47 helicopter.
> If a proposed rotorcraft or VTOL aircraft is simpler and/or less
> expensive than a Bell 47, either the price is unrealistic or the
> aircraft will not fly as promised.
>
> Bob K.
>
But it's an autogyro. It doesn't take off or land vertically.

Bob Kuykendall wrote:
> On Aug 27, 7:37 am, "Gig 601XL Builder"
>
>> Bell 47 rule?
>
> Paraphrased, there is no cheaper/more economical/more efficient way of
> achieving vertical takeoff and landing than with a Bell 47 helicopter.
> If a proposed rotorcraft or VTOL aircraft is simpler and/or less
> expensive than a Bell 47, either the price is unrealistic or the
> aircraft will not fly as promised.
>
> Bob K.

OK, but it is sad that a 60 year old peice of technology should be able to
retain such a status.

Bob: I fly a Safari helicopter which looks a lot like the Bell 47. I did
my helo dual in a Bell 47 D-1. The Safari is much simpler. Just the rod
end count is much less, there are no hydraulics and the Safari is capable of
higher cruise speeds. The Safari is just one of several two seat
helicopters that can outperform a Bell for both speed and cost of purchase
and operation.

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"Bob Kuykendall" > wrote in message
oups.com...
> On Aug 27, 7:37 am, "Gig 601XL Builder"
>
>> Bell 47 rule?
>
> Paraphrased, there is no cheaper/more economical/more efficient way of
> achieving vertical takeoff and landing than with a Bell 47 helicopter.
> If a proposed rotorcraft or VTOL aircraft is simpler and/or less
> expensive than a Bell 47, either the price is unrealistic or the
> aircraft will not fly as promised.
>
> Bob K.
>

On Aug 28, 7:40 am, "Stuart & Kathryn Fields" > wrote:

> Bob: I fly a Safari helicopter which looks a lot like the Bell 47...

I'm not saying the rule is valid. I'm just saying what it is said to
be.

Bob K.

("Stuart & Kathryn Fields" wrote)
> Bob: I fly a Safari helicopter which looks a lot like the Bell 47. I did
> my helo dual in a Bell 47 D-1. The Safari is much simpler. Just the rod
> end count is much less, there are no hydraulics and the Safari is capable
> of higher cruise speeds. The Safari is just one of several two seat
> helicopters that can outperform a Bell for both speed and cost of purchase
> and operation.


Link(s)...? Link(s)...? Link(s)...?


Paul-Mont

Senor Montblack( and I use the commonly used address that is nearing
mandatory requirement in California), If I read your "Link(s)? correctly,
there are a few: www.acehelicopter.com, www.experimentalhelo.com,
www.rotorway.com, www.verticalaviation.com that come to mind. There are
others coming from Europe and possibly from the Orient. These non-certified
ships allow for actual ownership as opposed to the certified birds that
have both FAA and the Mfr. dictating replacement times and modification
limits; not to mention the cost of replacement parts eg. $65,000 for a pair
of Bell 47 blades. The recent R-22 blade AD, the Bell 47 grip AD are strong
examples of the lack of true ownership being available to owners of both
these birds. Amen
(end of sermon)

--
Stuart & Kathryn Fields, Publishers
Experimental Helo magazine
P. O. Box 1585
Inyokern, CA 93527
(760) 377-4478 ph
(760) 408-9747 publication cell
(760) 608-1299 technical cell
www.experimentalhelo.com
www.vkss.com


"Montblack" > wrote in message
...
>
> ("Stuart & Kathryn Fields" wrote)
>> Bob: I fly a Safari helicopter which looks a lot like the Bell 47. I
>> did my helo dual in a Bell 47 D-1. The Safari is much simpler. Just the
>> rod end count is much less, there are no hydraulics and the Safari is
>> capable of higher cruise speeds. The Safari is just one of several two
>> seat helicopters that can outperform a Bell for both speed and cost of
>> purchase and operation.
>
>
> Link(s)...? Link(s)...? Link(s)...?
>
>
> Paul-Mont
>

The www.verticalaviation.com link goes to a holding page.


Stuart & Kathryn Fields wrote:
> Senor Montblack( and I use the commonly used address that is nearing
> mandatory requirement in California), If I read your "Link(s)? correctly,
> there are a few: www.acehelicopter.com,
> www.experimentalhelo.com, www.rotorway.com, www.verticalaviation.com that
> come to mind. There are others coming from Europe and possibly
> from the Orient. These non-certified ships allow for actual
> ownership as opposed to the certified birds that have both FAA and
> the Mfr. dictating replacement times and modification limits; not to
> mention the cost of replacement parts eg. $65,000 for a pair of Bell
> 47 blades. The recent R-22 blade AD, the Bell 47 grip AD are strong
> examples of the lack of true ownership being available to owners of
> both these birds. Amen (end of sermon)
>

Oops! vertical aviation link should have been : www.vertical-aviation.com
I missed the dash.
--
Stuart & Kathryn Fields, Publishers
Experimental Helo magazine
P. O. Box 1585
Inyokern, CA 93527
(760) 377-4478 ph
(760) 408-9747 publication cell
(760) 608-1299 technical cell
www.experimentalhelo.com
www.vkss.com



"Gig 601XL Builder" <wrDOTgiaconaATsuddenlink.net> wrote in message
...
> The www.verticalaviation.com link goes to a holding page.
>
>
> Stuart & Kathryn Fields wrote:
>> Senor Montblack( and I use the commonly used address that is nearing
>> mandatory requirement in California), If I read your "Link(s)? correctly,
>> there are a few: www.acehelicopter.com,
>> www.experimentalhelo.com, www.rotorway.com, www.verticalaviation.com that
>> come to mind. There are others coming from Europe and possibly
>> from the Orient. These non-certified ships allow for actual
>> ownership as opposed to the certified birds that have both FAA and
>> the Mfr. dictating replacement times and modification limits; not to
>> mention the cost of replacement parts eg. $65,000 for a pair of Bell
>> 47 blades. The recent R-22 blade AD, the Bell 47 grip AD are strong
>> examples of the lack of true ownership being available to owners of
>> both these birds. Amen (end of sermon)
>>
>
>